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Jeri, Jeri, Jeri…do you really want to do this? Ooh, please don’t hurt me Jeri! Afraid of you? I think NOT!

Two of the names you use as sources have mug shots.  Check them out before you start quoting.  DWI’s seem to run in your crowd.

One of those men’s ex-wife came to me in tears explaining how he left her with a $50,000 mortgage and kids to raise.  Why don’t you send her money to help? These are extremely credible sources?  NOT! All you have is gossip by those who hate soul winning.  By the way how is your soul winning coming along?  You are like all liberals…so predicable!


Lie number one…Sorry I never talked to any family member about what happened with Hirner before he was exposed.  I was out of town and was called on a Friday. I was told by a staff member of a parent who had brought in a diary of her daughter with something in it about Russell Hirner. I told the staff member to confront Hirner and find out if it was true.  The staff member told me Hirner was in Little Rock, Arkansas.  I told him to call him and tell him you had to see him.  He met with him at a local I-Hop restaurant about 5 pm on that same day.

Lie number two…Sorry Hirner was not employed by us at the time he was employed by ACE.  He had resigned from our ministry  a couple of years earlier. He was on the road in Little Rock, Arkansas, working at starting a school for ACE.  I had the staff member call him and he drove back five hours and met with the staff member. When he was confronted at I-Hop with the evidence he admitted what he had done.  

Lie number three…Sorry but my staff member called me and I told him to meet with Hirner’s family and have him tell them what he had done.   He did meet with all of his family that same night, but one son, and he told them what he had done.

Lie number four…Sorry but he was taken immediately to the police station and locked up which was about 2 hours later after being confronted.

Lie number five…Sorry you are wrong I stood before the church and told them what he had done and gave Biblical instruction on how to protect their children.

Lie number six…Sorry but the reference to Russell Hirner in a sermon was years before his horrible sins were known.

Lie number seven…Sorry I have immediately called the police at other times and other men are in prison at this moment because I turned them over to the police immediately.  

John 8:44, “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”

I am appalled at the sins of those who besmirch the office of ministry as well as any one, man or woman, who do such despicable acts, but I refuse to indict a whole community because of a few. 

I think we are all accountable in some respects because we do not walk closely enough with God to be able to spot such people.  However, I know of no one who on purpose allows such things to occur. I only know of gossips who paint a picture without really knowing the truth.

Then people like you Jeri carry their water to incriminate good churches who are doing their best to deal with such wicked people.  Get the facts Jeri.  

Again, you did not call me.  You did not seek the other side of the story and you made a BIG mistake by not doing so.  Which makes me wonder about others who have been smeared by your lap top gossip. 

If they are guilty lock them up! I have no problem letting people know who the predators are. But, do not indict everyone.  Check out the Scriptures on being a false accuser Jeri!

Why do we go soul winning?  Because of the fact that “All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”  

Let me see if I understand you correctly…we should not go soul winning because of wicked men who do wicked things? Maybe that is why God does not call women to be pastors.  Logic like yours deserves to be studied? Ha!

Jeri Massi, you are in this for you. I have been in the ministry for 40 years and have given my life to help the hurting while your claim to fame is living off of victims.  

If you were an honest person you would have contacted me before running to your blog to condemn something you knew nothing of except through the eyes of those haters who lie and supply you with slop. 

Why don’t you put out your cigar, shut your Hollywood movies off, put away your favorite beer, find a good Christian man to marry, have some babies, and get a real life!

“Run if you want to, hide if you will, but I came here to stay!”


  1. Here’s a thought, Mr. Gray. Why doesn’t someone do something about Timothy Lynn Butler? He is a confessed child molester. Yet, even after, he continues to pastor IFB churches. Why? So he is able molest more children in the name of God?? You want to know why people read these blogs? They expose all of the truths behind and being hidden by the IFB. Do something about him!

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